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Proud by Eyestrain Proud by Eyestrain
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My motivations behind this one are a little complex. I haven't drawn 'anthro' just for the sake of it for a long time, and I usually don't submit such drawings to this site. If I did, I wouldn't submit them to the anthro category; probably digital art ->portraits instead.

For me, any art is compelling not because of what kind of subject is involved, but because it is powerful art, technically impressive, or enjoyable to look at. If that's because of a great style, smart execution of a difficult concept, or plain good idea, I don't think it matters if the subject is a human, a wolf-man, or a chair.

From recent hunting through the galleries of deviants I admire, I think that many 'anthro' works are submitted under other categories (such as surreal or illustration). This has led me to wonder, where is the boundary that defines anthro/not anthro? Unlike manga/anime, which is a style (though diverse, it refers to the style, not the content), or any of the other categories on DA, which refer to medium or purpose, "anthro"'s category seems out of place to me.

Is anthro only for cartoony fox and dog people, like the ones in Disney's Robin Hood? Does anthro also encapsulate mythological creatures, like the minotaur and mermaid? Is an illustration for a children's book with the rabbits and cats in clothing not anthro? What if the 'anthro' in question is an animal with a human face, or a human with animal limbs, ears, tails? Is any combination of animal and human anthro, or is it more strict? Each artist decides for themselves. But whether or not it is anthro, isn't there already a category waiting for it? Or should all of those things be lumped into anthro instead of going to other categories?

I guess, ultimately, I am just perplexed as to why anthro is so singled out.
I know it doesn't seem like this has anything to do with the picture, but it's the reason I drew it, and what I thought about while I did so.
Thanks for reading, apologies if it was a waste of time.
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Given 2012-05-24
Proud by ~Eyestrain is a magnificent illustration and a great contribution to the anthro community. ( Suggested by WhiteRum and Featured by KovoWolf )
:icontbonegirl28:
tbonegirl28 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013  Student General Artist
This is awesome!! :D I love the textures and colors!
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:iconkawaiicherub:
kawaiicherub Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
I guess it would really depend how deep one goes into researching Anthropomorphism.:iconthinkingplz:
I think even nonliving things that spring to life, reasoning like humans and have human characteristics, are also considered Anthros.
I'm fuzzy on the subject so I could be wrong.

I also think, on the whole, that it depends solely on what the artist is trying to convey through the image that they put down.
On this particular piece, I would have to say that the digital art ->portraits would be better suited; simply because the focus pays more attention
of portraying a majestic and proud figure (whether it be beast or man) rather than you displaying the Anthro genre.

I say this because one can fancy the thought of this figure being a man that strongly gives off the aura of a proud lion, or is viewed as one by others. Or say, one can imagine that the artist is trying to bring to the viewer's attention the essence and spirit of the lion's proud being, but instead drawing the animal as a four legged beast, so we are treated to a humanoid version and thus feel a greater connection for the animal. I know I'm struck in awe; captivated by the thought that though this lion may have certain human characteristics(be it standing on to legs, thinking, reasoning, laughing, etc.) it is still a wild beast. And a mighty one that is to respected.

Of course, that is to say I'm not under-handing the fact that an artist can't both show an dynamic figure while also striving for the Anthro image. (But keeping in mind I merely focusing on the image presented in front of me.)
Needless to say, these are all just me musing my thoughts aloud so I'm not meaning to sound pompous or that I'm trying to force my own ideology on the subject of the Anthro genre.

Anyways, I've said enough. I enjoyed your thoughts on the subject. :iconlikeasirplz:
(I've also had them myself btw. :aww:)
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012
Thanks for your kind words and sharing your thoughts.
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:iconweronewerall:
WeROneWeRall Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Gorgeous! It reminds me a little of Caineghis from Fire Emblem. Which is not a bad thing. Love it!
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:iconcapitanarecondita:
CapitanaRecondita Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2012  Professional
wonderful!!!!!!
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2012
Thank you!
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:iconcapitanarecondita:
CapitanaRecondita Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2012  Professional
you're welcome!
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:icongiottop:
Giottop Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I tried to reproduce this with pen, it came out a bit different but still felt good to do it.

I haven't uploaded it yet to deviant art. If you dont mind I'd like to put it in my gallery.

I could add a link to this piece so ppl can see your work.

Thanks, keep up the good work.
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012
I'm happy you admire this painting. Thank you very much for asking permission to post it, and I would appreciate the link. :)
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:icongiottop:
Giottop Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hey there!

Thanks for letting me post it.

Hope you like it.

[link]
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
@Niever (in case you come back here- It seems i've been blocked and can't post this to you directly):

I'm sorry, I think you may have misunderstood what I wrote. I've never claimed my artwork was anything. I was discussing, in general and abstract terms, artwork in general.

"For me, any art is compelling not because of what kind of subject is involved, but because it is powerful art, technically impressive, or enjoyable to look at. If that's because of a great style, smart execution of a difficult concept, or plain good idea, I don't think it matters if the subject is a human, a wolf-man, or a chair. "

Maybe you misread this word as, "my" ?
In any case, I will try to have confidence in what I can do for the sake of those who like or look up to my art. But I have no delusions of being a great artist right now. I am a student and the weaknesses in my work nearly outweigh the strengths. I just have to keep making more drawings and paintings, learn from other artists, and keep training my mind as well as my hands.

Thanks for reading.
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:iconmelanegriffant:
MelaneGriffant Featured By Owner May 29, 2012
I like the "little kitty"!
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:iconangie-pictures:
Angie-Pictures Featured By Owner May 26, 2012
Beautiful work! Congratulations on the DD! :)
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:iconn1kalas:
n1kalas Featured By Owner May 26, 2012   Photographer
10000000x from me amazing work congratz m8.
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Thanks very much!
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:iconrosenwyn:
Rosenwyn Featured By Owner May 26, 2012
It may be that I just don't browse enough anthro to catch it when it happens, but this is the first male anthro I've ever seen outside of World of Warcraft fan art. And I must say, this is a Very Cool pic! Thank you for posting it, as well as your thoughts on Anthro as a category, which I found very interesting.
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Thanks so much for looking. There is a lot of male anthro artwork out there. Off the top of my head I recommend looking at :iconalectorfencer:'s artwork. If you'd like some more suggestions I will hunt others down for you.
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:iconmarenyou:
MarenYou Featured By Owner May 25, 2012
You got a DD on this! Holy monkeys, my love.
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
I know right. Still kind of hard to believe.
:heart:
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:icontoledo-the-horse:
Toledo-the-Horse Featured By Owner May 25, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
1. The artist gives quite a nuanced analysis of the (non-)need for an "anthro" gallery/category in the description.

2. The DD nomination calls this "anthro".

Haha.

But well done nonetheless! :D
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Well, I did put it in the anthro category to make a point, so I guess that oddness is my own fault. heh
Thank you very much.
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:icontokheh:
Tokheh Featured By Owner May 25, 2012  Student General Artist
So majestic! ^^

Congratulation! :clap:
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Thank you.
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:icondanipandacutie:
Danipandacutie Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Oh, I like! He's quite attractive, I love his golden maine and pretty green eyes! I'm a werewolf freak I love anything werewolf! I always ask my friends who would u date a werewolf or a vampire? Usually they'll say vampire, I love werewolves! There just so fearce but cuddly at the same time! Beautiful art!!!:)
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Thanks.
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:iconself-epidemic:
Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I really like this one, I generally don't like anthro very much but this one is so rugged and textured. It really is well done!!
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Thank you very much :thanks:
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:iconmechanic-star:
Mechanic-Star Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Man....you love yourself SO DAMN MUCH... it just doesn't feel right :( , even in the case than you are extremely good at what you do, ...you are even better if you are humble enough to let others tell you 'how good your art is' in stand of explaining to us like little kids how "powerful art, technically impressive, or enjoyable to look at" your art is...it's so sad to see DD be given to such persons as you. Sad indeed... :'(
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:icongraphicsnme:
graphicsnme Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
Lovely .. i like his attitude.. superb work
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Thank you.
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:iconkessir:
kessir Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I read through your description and I have to say you're absolutely right about this. It is like people that are exclusively Anthro artists are pushed into one corner to drool over each other, though anthro isnt an actual definition of style. In some peculiar way i'd even say this form of categorization is a kind of "racism" against anthro artists, especially since the Admins are very strickt when you suggest art for DDs to a member of the admins, for example an anthro art placed into the surrealism cathegory because the anthro stands in a salvador-dali like background, and it gets rejected simply because its not the Anthro category (and was submitted to the anthro DD giver).

Anyway, enough about the ranting, congratulations on the DD and I have to say that the perspective and the detail of this big guy really drew me in; Its amazing! I dont think i've ever seen anyone use perspective on a Lion-anthro like this before, and i have to say that I really love it. Thank you so much for showing this to us :)
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
It's been my pleasure and a real surprise to receive so much attention and praise for this painting. Thank you so much.

I've talked with KovoWolf before about the exclusion, and she and others on the DA staff are each responsible for their own categories. If they go outside of their own categories too often I think it may cause some sort of bureaucratic trouble, so my understanding is that it's an issue of jurisdiction, not of 'racism' (and considering that 'anthropomorphic animal' is not a race, I'm not sure 'racism' is an appropriate term in this situation).
This is why having anthro as its own category limits the artwork included for DDS and I lean in favor of its dissolution.
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:iconcarloskot:
carloskot Featured By Owner May 24, 2012
amazing!!
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Thank you.
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:iconcarloskot:
carloskot Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012
you're welcome!!
i'm a fan of your work!!
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012
That's awesome, thanks :)
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:iconcollena:
collena Featured By Owner May 24, 2012
this is really cool!!
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Thanks!
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:iconmolly99wolfloveer:
Molly99WolfLoveer Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:O !!

your amazing !!
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
You are very kind to say so ^^
Thank you.
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:iconmonkeytaillo:
Monkeytaillo Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:O_o: /Amazed. Speechless... Moved. Inspired. :iconlionplz:
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Humbled... Go for it!
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:iconarkrothe:
Arkrothe Featured By Owner May 24, 2012
The portrait just seems to exude power. The title is perfect for it, and the lion's expression shows this.
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
It's kind of you to say, thank you very much.
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:iconkathyrunkle:
KathyRunkle Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow! I just love this!
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Thanks!
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:iconelfabella:
elfabella Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Student General Artist
You completely captured the emotion. I love this!
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
Ah, so glad to hear it. Thank you.
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:iconkeni-c:
Keni-C Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Student General Artist
simply amazing :O_o:
this work has great presence
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:iconeyestrain:
Eyestrain Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012
:blushes:

:thanks:
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